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Soapweed Rancher

Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 13459 Location: northern Nebraska Sandhills
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:41 am Post subject: |
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| Hereford bulls on Angus cows makes a good combination. I just don't think it would be a good idea to breed first-calf black heifers to a Hereford. Any Herefords I've been around have fairly good-sized birthweights, besides the fact that the hybrid vigor would also add a few pounds to the calf. The red-hided calves don't bother me, as quite a few of our cows are red. Our red cows (Red Angus x Gelbvieh) are bred to red Simmental.
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Nicky Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 2793 Location: N.E. Oregon
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pknoeber Member

Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 106 Location: SW KS
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:09 am Post subject: |
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Nicky, that's a good picture and a beautiful setup. Makes me jealous for that kind of scenery. We get to drive 7 hrs. before we get any scenery like that.
Phil
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Soapweed Rancher

Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 13459 Location: northern Nebraska Sandhills
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| Nice looking cow and calf, Nicky. With 60-70 pound birthweights, your first-calf heifer calving should go pretty easy. Hope the weather cooperates for you.
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Nicky Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 2793 Location: N.E. Oregon
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Faster horses Rancher

Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 22013 Location: SE MT
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:39 am Post subject: |
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The only time we have ever had to have C-sections, was when we were running Herefords and we bred all the heifers to Black Angus bulls.
At that time, birthweight EPD's were not known. We felt that, along with hybird vigor is what got us into some calving problems.
Since then we have always straightbred the heifers and gotten along fine.
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WB Member

Joined: 08 Mar 2005 Posts: 311 Location: North Central S.D.
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Soapweed: If it a calving ease issue I think you can get around that by selecting a well proven calving ease bull but that might involve using EPDs. LOL.
I will calve about a dozen angus females bred to a Hereford bull this Spring and don't anticipate any problems and wil let you know how it goes.
My dad has some of his heifers bred Hereford that I get to clave out and will be interesting how they will compare to the females that are bred Angus.
I am not that old but feel that the best place for the calf puller is on the wall in the calving barn collecting rust.
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WB Member

Joined: 08 Mar 2005 Posts: 311 Location: North Central S.D.
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Nicky: What are the bloodlines of the bulls you used on your heifers?
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Soapweed Rancher

Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 13459 Location: northern Nebraska Sandhills
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Prairiebluestem Member

Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 5 Location: Kentucky
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