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Soap I have a question

Postby Big Muddy rancher » Sat May 05, 2018 7:43 am

" Carol gave vaccinations of One Shot PMH, injectable Dectomax, Vison 7/Somubac, and nasal Inforce 3; "
Do you give these shots for the health of the calves for the summer on the ranch or for Pre-conditioning shots for sale in the fall?
Will you give the calves you sell a second set of vaccinations before they leave the ranch?
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Re: Soap I have a question

Postby Soapweed » Sat May 05, 2018 9:23 am

Big Muddy rancher wrote:" Carol gave vaccinations of One Shot PMH, injectable Dectomax, Vison 7/Somubac, and nasal Inforce 3; "
Do you give these shots for the health of the calves for the summer on the ranch or for Pre-conditioning shots for sale in the fall?
Will you give the calves you sell a second set of vaccinations before they leave the ranch?


Sometimes I think it is for the health of the vaccine suppliers :-) , but on a more serious note, we give these shots in the spring. We also give a full round of pre-conditioning shots in the fall, about three to six weeks before we sell the calves. The calves tend to breathe better if they have vaccine needle holes in their skin to take some of the load off of their nostrils.

One year we had a lot of summer sickness. Since we've been giving the Once PMH (it is not "One Shot PMH" as I originally posted), it has cut down on the problem.

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Postby gcreekrch » Sat May 05, 2018 6:04 pm

Soapweed wrote:
Big Muddy rancher wrote:" Carol gave vaccinations of One Shot PMH, injectable Dectomax, Vison 7/Somubac, and nasal Inforce 3; "
Do you give these shots for the health of the calves for the summer on the ranch or for Pre-conditioning shots for sale in the fall?
Will you give the calves you sell a second set of vaccinations before they leave the ranch?


Sometimes I think it is for the health of the vaccine suppliers :-) , but on a more serious note, we give these shots in the spring. We also give a full round of pre-conditioning shots in the fall, about three to six weeks before we sell the calves. The calves tend to breathe better if they have vaccine needle holes in their skin to take some of the load off of their nostrils.

One year we had a lot of summer sickness. Since we've been giving the Once PMH (it is not "One Shot PMH" as I originally posted), it has cut down on the problem.


We use the Once PMH at birth and have seen a big change to the good.
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Re: Soap I have a question

Postby Big Muddy rancher » Sat May 05, 2018 8:54 pm

I see Once PMH and Inforce 3 are both intra nasal vaccines. Interesting

I guess there is a Once PMH SQ and a Once PMH IN different vaccination routes.

It pays to read. :D
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Re: Soap I have a question

Postby rancherfred » Mon May 07, 2018 1:11 pm

Big Muddy rancher wrote:I see Once PMH and Inforce 3 are both intra nasal vaccines. Interesting

I guess there is a Once PMH SQ and a Once PMH IN different vaccination routes.

It pays to read. :D


According to what I have studied, the IN delivery pathway results in quicker immunity but not necessarily long term. Our vet has us doing Once PMH IN as the first round and then boosting with Once PMH SQ.

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Re: Soap I have a question

Postby Silver » Mon May 07, 2018 9:55 pm

rancherfred wrote:
Big Muddy rancher wrote:I see Once PMH and Inforce 3 are both intra nasal vaccines. Interesting

I guess there is a Once PMH SQ and a Once PMH IN different vaccination routes.

It pays to read. :D


According to what I have studied, the IN delivery pathway results in quicker immunity but not necessarily long term. Our vet has us doing Once PMH IN as the first round and then boosting with Once PMH SQ.


According to their literature it's not supposed to be given until at least a week of age, which for me at least is problematic.

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Re: Soap I have a question

Postby rancherfred » Mon May 07, 2018 10:05 pm

Silver wrote:
rancherfred wrote:
Big Muddy rancher wrote:I see Once PMH and Inforce 3 are both intra nasal vaccines. Interesting

I guess there is a Once PMH SQ and a Once PMH IN different vaccination routes.

It pays to read. :D


According to what I have studied, the IN delivery pathway results in quicker immunity but not necessarily long term. Our vet has us doing Once PMH IN as the first round and then boosting with Once PMH SQ.


According to their literature it's not supposed to be given until at least a week of age, which for me at least is problematic.


I use Inforce 3 at birth and Once PMH in the fall at preconditioning/weaning time.


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