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Re: Range cubes

Postby TexasBred » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:58 pm

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rightwinger82 wrote:I am now considering a grain mix of half cracked corn half whole cotton seed. That would be around 15 protien and 15 fat. No out of wack minerals or trace elements for around the same price as cake, and no need to change mineral programs. If all a person was short was protien alfalfa would be fine. Especially if you feed twice the amount needed, cause they ain't gonna eat them stems. I am looking to push fat to keep consumption of hay up.

Have you considered just feeding straight cottonseed and feeding only half as much. Should still have adequate crude protein and great energy level not to mention milk production if you have cows nursing calves. Would be a great compliment to hay and your cattle should flourish.

I have considered straight cottonseed. I have no experience with it, only read about it. Due to my location and shipping and handling, i thought the addition of 50 percent cracked corn would help it flow and handle better. Also, i didn't know how the cows might react to them little fuzzy seeds, thought the corn wouldn't run them off. What percent waste would you think there would be feeding whole cottonseed on the ground? Lots of folks feed ddg or grain mix on the ground here out of a cake feeder. Thanks, i had been wanting to hear from someone with whole cottonseed experience.

Cattle will give them a strange look at first but will adjust quickly. I've never fed them on the ground but there will be waste. Probably 10-15% at least. The darn things stick together so your thoughts about adding the corn will certainly work for improving the flow of the seed. And the corn certainly won't hurt anything. You might begin by mixing then see how they react when you slip them some without the corn.
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Re: Range cubes

Postby Faster horses » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:16 pm

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Faster horses wrote:Third trimester 'maintenence feed' does require higher nutrition requirements than second trimester. Of course, after she calves, her nutrition requirements are even greater.
If the producer can get more body condition on their cows before going into winter/third trimester it is much cheaper to maintain that condition as opposed to trying to build body condition when the weather is cold. Sometimes, here in the north, we can't feed enough to maintain them, so good body condition going into the winter is very important; both for the cow and the producers pocketbook.

Should always go into winter with cattle in good condition regardless of where you live....but when you need conditioning lower protein higher energy feed is usually higher quality and less expensive than high protein feed and does a much better job of improving body condition.


:agree: Range country in the north has cows pretty far from home much of the time and it's hard to feed energy; plus we are far from a cheap source of energy like DDG's or cottonseed. I wish that wasn't the case, but we get by and the cows in the north can look remarkably good.
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Re: Range cubes

Postby rightwinger82 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:37 am

What kind of feeding rates have you used them at? I am looking to suppliment third trimester until pasture, any recommendations? Thanks
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Re: Range cubes

Postby TexasBred » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:52 pm

rightwinger82 wrote:What kind of feeding rates have you used them at? I am looking to suppliment third trimester until pasture, any recommendations? Thanks

Most of my experience has been with dairies and we often fed much more than recommended (as much as 7-8 lbs. per head per day). Three to four pounds should be more than enough for good beef cattle along with the hay.
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Re: Range cubes

Postby TexasBred » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:55 pm

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:agree: Range country in the north has cows pretty far from home much of the time and it's hard to feed energy; plus we are far from a cheap source of energy like DDG's or cottonseed. I wish that wasn't the case, but we get by and the cows in the north can look remarkably good.

Forgot about the distance factor but for most folks corn is the cheapest and easiest obtained source of energy usually contained in a good heavy commercial feed. Very little DDG fed down this way for beef cattle and if used primarily a protein source in a TMR.
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Re: Range cubes

Postby Faster horses » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:36 pm

Yes, corn is fed in the north too. Cob corn or whole corn, sometimes cracked corn. Fun to watch cows learn to eat cob corn that have never done so. They sure get the hang of it though.
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Re: Range cubes

Postby TexasBred » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:40 am

Faster horses wrote:Yes, corn is fed in the north too. Cob corn or whole corn, sometimes cracked corn. Fun to watch cows learn to eat cob corn that have never done so. They sure get the hang of it though.

Hard to find ear corn around here as most is machine picked and stored. I remember as a kid hand picking corn (hated my dad for it) adn then hauling a pickup truck load to the feed mill to be ground, have protein and more roughage added to it along with molasses and hauling it home. Fed it to everything. When we fed corn on the cob dad made me break the ears in half for the cows. Amazing how they can get it all down the chute eventually. :wink:
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Re: Range cubes

Postby Faster horses » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:33 am

Cob corn here mostly comes out of SD.
The cows sure waller it around in their mouth, use their tongue (a lot) when eating it and especially when LEARNING to eat it.
We had one old cow that just wouldn't eat it. But only one.
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Re: Range cubes

Postby fence » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:14 pm

TexasBred wrote:
rightwinger82 wrote:I have considered straight cottonseed. I have no experience with it, only read about it. Due to my location and shipping and handling, i thought the addition of 50 percent cracked corn would help it flow and handle better. Also, i didn't know how the cows might react to them little fuzzy seeds, thought the corn wouldn't run them off. What percent waste would you think there would be feeding whole cottonseed on the ground? Lots of folks feed ddg or grain mix on the ground here out of a cake feeder. Thanks, i had been wanting to hear from someone with whole cottonseed experience.

Cattle will give them a strange look at first but will adjust quickly. I've never fed them on the ground but there will be waste. Probably 10-15% at least. The darn things stick together so your thoughts about adding the corn will certainly work for improving the flow of the seed. And the corn certainly won't hurt anything. You might begin by mixing then see how they react when you slip them some without the corn.


We're feeding cottonseed on the ground. Short dormant grass. We scoop it out of the barn with the fel and dribble it out in small piles. They clean it up pretty good. I've tried mixing it with corn in a overhead and bin. As little as 10 percent will cause flow problems in my experience.


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