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| How much are you willing to pay for your saddle stock? |
| $2500 or less |
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43% |
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| $3500 or less |
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33% |
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| $4500 or less |
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6% |
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| $5500 or more |
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RoperAB
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Joined: 11 Feb 2006
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Location: Alberta
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 Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:50 am Post subject: How much are you willing to pay for your saddle stock? |
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theHiredMansWife
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Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 1219
Location: southwest corner of the Sandhills
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RoperAB
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Joined: 11 Feb 2006
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Location: Alberta
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Jinglebob
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Joined: 14 Feb 2005
Posts: 5727
Location: Western South Dakota
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Thats a hard question to answer for me. I am picky about how my horses respond to me and my cues.
If I could buy a good solid horse that handled as mine do for $5000 or less, I'd be happy.
I never have bought a broke horse I was happy with, tho', so we buy and raise colts and spend that $5000 getting them growed up and broke. We always have a couple more than we need around and when they get older, most are for sale, but they ain't cheap, but then I guarentee them and would and have always done this with any horse I've ever sold like this.
If they don't suit me for what ever reason, they go to the sale, loose and the next guy can buy them cheaper and take his chances.
I've never sold a horse yet, that anyone ever complained about.
I did sell one to a friend who had a good handle on him and I had several other people tell me so, who had rode him. The friend told me that after he had him a couple of weeks and "trained" on him, he sure was a good horse. I didn't argue that they just needed to learn each others cues and thast it took them that long to get it figured out. The friend was happy, but I'd never sell him another one.
I will occasially sell a young horse as a yearling or two year old to someone who needs a good one and I can get my money back out of him.
I sure get tired of people who balk at paying good money for a horse, but will think nothing of spending twice as much for a 4 wheeler.
I guess they've just never rode a good one or they are getting too old to need a good one.
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RoperAB
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Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Posts: 1435
Location: Alberta
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| Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Thats a hard question to answer for me. I am picky about how my horses respond to me and my cues.
If I could buy a good solid horse that handled as mine do for $5000 or less, I'd be happy.
I never have bought a broke horse I was happy with, tho', so we buy and raise colts and spend that $5000 getting them growed up and broke. We always have a couple more than we need around and when they get older, most are for sale, but they ain't cheap, but then I guarentee them and would and have always done this with any horse I've ever sold like this.
If they don't suit me for what ever reason, they go to the sale, loose and the next guy can buy them cheaper and take his chances.
I've never sold a horse yet, that anyone ever complained about.
I did sell one to a friend who had a good handle on him and I had several other people tell me so, who had rode him. The friend told me that after he had him a couple of weeks and "trained" on him, he sure was a good horse. I didn't argue that they just needed to learn each others cues and thast it took them that long to get it figured out. The friend was happy, but I'd never sell him another one.
I will occasially sell a young horse as a yearling or two year old to someone who needs a good one and I can get my money back out of him.
I sure get tired of people who balk at paying good money for a horse, but will think nothing of spending twice as much for a 4 wheeler.
I guess they've just never rode a good one or they are getting too old to need a good one.
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LOL I bet if that horse didnt work out that you sold to your friend that then he would have told everybody that Jinglebob trained him!
How do you garantee a horse?
God I have some colts advertised. 95% of the people that call about my horses I wont even let come look at my colts. Then even the 2% that I do let come are really pretty darn green. You see they will come but then I find out that there not the ones who are really buying the horse. You see the green rider just got a semi experienced rider to come and check the colt out for them.
It all adds up to a bunch of my time wasted.
About the quads. Isnt that something! Pay $12 grand for a quad and then balk at $5000 for a horse! Or go out and buy junk at an horse auction. I know guys who are always buying these auction horses. Never satisfied with what they get but wont pay over $2500 for a horse! Then most of the damn stock trailers going down the road have a quad in the back. Haha Plus they are pulling them with new dually diesels!
I would love to get into showing. Im thinking it would be easier to market horses. To damn bad everything is aged events.
Then there are other good hands out there that make their living on a horse. Problem is they couldnt afford to pay that much for a horse. Plus there all riding colts and selling them.
Seems like the biggest market out there right now is for "Dude" horses and lawn ornaments<sad>
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Jinglebob
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Location: Western South Dakota
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RoperAB
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Posts: 1435
Location: Alberta
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| Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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I have had people ask me for a garantee. Well how can I garantee a horses behaviour when I have no control over how they are going to use him?
I used to train other peoples horses or for different problems they taught there horses. I would have the horse going good and then they would take him back. First thing before you knew it they would bring the horse back with either the same problem or some new problem they trained into the horse.
I guess if your horses are older its not as much of a problem. But I cant see how you can make any money keeping a horse until its ten years old and then selling him for only $5000.
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Jinglebob
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| Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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I have had people ask me for a garantee. Well how can I garantee a horses behaviour when I have no control over how they are going to use him?
I used to train other peoples horses or for different problems they taught there horses. I would have the horse going good and then they would take him back. First thing before you knew it they would bring the horse back with either the same problem or some new problem they trained into the horse.
I guess if your horses are older its not as much of a problem. But I cant see how you can make any money keeping a horse until its ten years old and then selling him for only $5000. |
Like I said, I ain't in it for the money.
This particular horse was my stud till he was 5, so I got some nice colts out of him and got the use of him since he was 3. I think that is worth something.
I don't know how anyone makes money on these horses except the traders who don't care who buys them or how they act after they sell them.
I know what you are saying about the training deal. Most people can't ride a well broke, fine tuned horse. So if they can't make one do what you can or keep one there, it's your fault.
Thats why I'm pretty careful who I sell a good one to.
When they come to try one out, they are welcome to do whatever and once they are in the trailer, it's their horse. If they have problems with one after they get him home, that they didn't have at my place, it sure ain't my fault. They cripple one up, it's not my fault.
Selling good horses can be a real pain.
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Northern Rancher
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Joined: 10 Feb 2005
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Location: saskatchewan
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| I like the call about a horse for their kid starting out-willing to pay 5 bucks over meat-I said I got 4 kids of my own-why would I give their horse away to you. We raise all our own horses too-at least then all their dumbness they got from me.Just ran them in tonight-after losing my go to pony I guess it's time to start the young ones coming. Looks like some foals off my wee blue stud coming ssoon too.
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Heel Fly
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Joined: 29 Apr 2006
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Location: Eastern MT
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| If I ever was to pay for one I'd expect to pay quite a little. However I am VERY picky. I judged horses in college and anymore I am a stickler for good comformation. But disposition is very important to me also. I do own a mare that is a conformational wreck but has the heart of 20 horses. She will get it done or die trying that quality is worth a lot. Well that and a horse that can really walk! Nothing is worse then riding all day on a horse that you have to pedal along.
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theHiredMansWife
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Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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Location: southwest corner of the Sandhills
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| I do own a mare that is a conformational wreck but has the heart of 20 horses. |
The lesser half has a horse that is built a lot like a moose with a big Roman nose and half his tail cropped off. He is the ugliest thing...
But he's full of character and has the same attitude as your mare. He'll run all day until you pull him in.
At 25, that quality is starting to make me nervous. I just know that one of these days, he and his boy are going to be hot after some rangy old cow and he's going to have a heart attack mid-flight...
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Northern Rancher
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| Read an interesting book about LK ranches in southern Alberta-they ran literally thousands of horses during the ranches history-they said there weren't more than a handful that broke down because of poor conformation-all the showring stuff haven't made the quarter horse breed any more user friendly as far as ranch horses go-alot of mutton witherted horses out there. Pretty is as pretty does-both in the horse business and the cattle business too. I'm as guilty as the next guy at buying conceived pefection over utility but I've seen some pretty ugly made horses make some pretty good cow ponies.
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