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Oldtimer
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 Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: M-COOL Affidavit |
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I've been using an affidavit very similar to this- but also including All Natural Verification- for about the last 10 years....
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9/4/2008 7:47:00 AM
NCBA Statement On Industry-Wide Affidavit For COOL
“The National Cattlemen’s Beef Association (NCBA) is pleased to join an industry-wide coalition in announcing the development of a standardized affidavit to declare country of origin for livestock throughout the marketing chain. The affidavit is available online here http://www.beefusa.org/uDocs/countryoforiginaffidavit453.pdf .
“Tomorrow, NCBA and other representatives from throughout the livestock and meat industries will meet with United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) Under Secretary Bruce Knight to present this affidavit.
“Our goal was to create a simple, efficient, and effective means of declaring livestock origin from conception to consumer, and we believe this affidavit does exactly that. Producers can fill in information specific to their cattle and assert the origin of any animal being sold. Livestock marketers further along the ownership chain can use individual affidavits to create a single, combined affidavit for a group of animals.
“Representatives from every point in the supply chain unanimously agreed to use this standardized affidavit, which will greatly ease the burden that mandatory COOL places on producers.
“NCBA has focused on implementing COOL in a manner that provides maximum benefit and minimal disruption to our ranchers. We believe this affidavit will be a significant help in that effort.
“Additionally, NCBA is working with our industry partners on the issue of so-called ‘gap cattle,’ which are animals traded in the period between July 15, 2008 (the date that declared all livestock present in the U.S. as being of U.S. origin) and the September 30, 2008 implementation deadline. We are well aware that owners of these animals would be very hard pressed to recreate the paper trail documenting origin. The industry consensus is that current owners should be considered to have first-hand knowledge of those cattle. Therefore, these animals should be allowed to move through the marketing chain using the standard affidavit.
“NCBA will continue to work on behalf of our cattlemen to put in place an effective and accurate labeling system. Additionally, we will be leading the effort to educate producers on how to comply with the new rule.
“For more information about the industry consensus, please read our stakeholder letter http://www.beefusa.org/uDocs/countryoforiginaffidavitcoverletter.pdf .” |
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PORKER
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| Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject: Ouch! |
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Here is a legal trainwreck that will be a court case.
In the case of Cattle-beef-veal, Sheep-lamb, goat, and swine-pork, a producer affidavit shall
be considered acceptable evidence on which the slaughter facility may rely to initiate the
origin claim, provided it is made by someone having first-hand knowledge of the origin of the animal(s)
and identifies the animal(s) unique to the transaction and affidavit.
Those written affidavits only says referenced livestock, nothing about( identifies THE animal) Packers are not willing to pay fines because of the traceback law COOL requires a verified audit. No unique ID on the critter and the retailers won't take the meat as the affidavit is not traceable within the 5 day requirement for the law.
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PORKER
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| Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: Just Better to keep government OUT!!!! |
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I don't want NAIS either, it's where every darn animal on a operation is exposed including you thru your premises code. We don't need a government animal ID ,we only need our own Ranch ID system .
ScoringAg is the only safeguarded encrypted database where only one of your animals or crops is exposed with out a government premises code.Your name, signature, address, and phone and your herd inventory is never exposed to anybody.
I guess you need a little education,Oldtimer, on privacy of data which is number 1 in my book. Those stupid affidavits give just way to much data like your signature for every cottonpicken place your animal moves after you sold it and when they need to check on COOL verification of source, they can and have the legal right to dig around in your personal animal and ranch files for proof. NOT ME !
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burnt
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mrj
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OT, specifically, how is "profiteering" from selling tags, data bases, readers, or technology needed for Animal ID at a profit worse than "profiteering" by making and selling branding irons, corral panels, squeeze chutes/calf tables, ropes, horse trailers and ranch horses needed for branding ?????
mrj
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Oldtimer
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OT, specifically, how is "profiteering" from selling tags, data bases, readers, or technology needed for Animal ID at a profit worse than "profiteering" by making and selling branding irons, corral panels, squeeze chutes/calf tables, ropes, horse trailers and ranch horses needed for branding ?????
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Probably isn't-- except its an unneeded cost when what some of us have has been working for 150 years...Federal Government shouldn't be using Millions $ of taxpayer money to shove something else down our throats..
Oh I forgot- your a supporter of the bigger government and bigger bureaucracy- federal government usurption of states/individual rights- record drunken sailor spending and national debt like we've gotten the past 7 1/2 years... 
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PORKER
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: Older is Better |
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In the Case of Mandatory ID which I don't want ,I would say that the gov. should fund all of this or as some would say ,it's a unfunded mandate rule like NAIS tried to start.
Oldtimer, I agree, This system worked fine until the lawyers started sueing everyone . We don't need a spinach deal to happen to the livestock industry because of no traceback to the packer of fault like e-coli and listeria that is going on in Canada. Well maybe it did happen with a Canadian BSE cow in our hamburger in 03.
Between paper records and web-based database records there is still a lag time with paper ,which is as slow as snail mail. Maybe you need to update your recordkeeping with some speed , just kidding. I use my wireless PDA, its just a little faster then paper.
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mrj
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Poor OT, still living in that fantasy world where evil lurks in every proposal which you didn't think of first!
Did you fall asleep and not know that our country was attacked by extremist Islamic terrorists and that countering that terrorism successfully enough that they have not been successful either in another attack in our nation, or in taking over Iraq to use as their base???
Yes, that has cost money.......just as has the extreme amount of 'political pork'........and my guess is, it's a pretty safe bet you haven't been demanding your part of the country send back its share of the plunder!
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Bill
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PORKER
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:54 am Post subject: Another COOL Mistake |
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The new issue of so-called ‘gap cattle,’ which are animals traded in the period between July 15, 2008 (the date that declared all livestock present in the U.S. as being of U.S. origin) and the September 30, 2008 implementation deadline. Every packer is well aware that owners of these animals would be very hard pressed to recreate the paper trail documenting origin.
Those animals didn't have any records and there won't be any traceback to their origin source . There was not any written or computer documents for ID'ed calves to base claims for retail that will be needed next summer and fall.
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Now that's funny!