Global warming over

[Shaft]

RobertMac,

Thanks for the links. Seems like either Roy Spencer is right or else the majority of the world's scientists are right. I have young children, so I'm actively pulling for Roy, but please forgive my skepticism. I hope he's right, but just can't seem to make myself believe it at the moment.

As for the CO2 cycle don't ask me, ask someone in the field. I seek out the best in the business, whoever they may be, when I want the straight goods.

How much of the Earth is relatively unaffected by mankind? I respectfully suggest you download Google Earth (no plug intended) and have a look for yourself. The results may surprise you.

All the best.

[Shaft]

Ooops. Found some friends for Roy. Some big fat compelling friends.

http://www.sepp.org/publications/NIPCC-Feb%2020.pdf

[RobertMac]

Shaft, most of the Earth's surface is water...combine the shear volume of water and the fact that it's an enormous eco-system that is responsible for the vast majority of O2/CO2 exchange makes the oceans, lakes and rivers the most controlling factor in climate change. Note the climate differences in northern and southern hemispheres because of more ocean area in the south.
Nature always seeks balance...if CO2 atmospheric concentration increases, the organisms that benefit from CO2 will increase to utilize it.

Glad to have you on board actively pulling for Dr.Roy!!!

Take care.

[Shaft]

The ice shelves in Canada's High Arctic have lost a colossal area this year, scientists report.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7595441.stm

"Loss of ice in the Arctic, and in particular the extensive sea-ice, has global implications. The "white parasol" at the top of the planet reflects energy from the Sun straight back out into space, helping to cool the Earth.

Further loss of Arctic ice will see radiation absorbed by darker seawater and snow-free land, potentially warming the Earth's climate at an even faster rate than current observational data indicates."

RobertMac and Porker, my brothers, the earth is indeed covered with a vaste amount of water and the polar icecap is covered with a vast amount of ice. That ice is melting at an unprecedented rate. This is not speculation, it is measured fact.

I held my breath hoping that the polar melting trend of the past few years would stop or at least slow down. Unfortunately it continues to accelerate. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the potential effects on the temperature of the earth and global climate conditions thereby through replacing millions of square miles of white reflective surface with dark absorptive surface.

Not good news, to be sure, but not news that can safely be ignored with impunity in my respectful view.

[PORKER]

Any thought to the pole change.