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4Diamond Member

Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 29 Location: Missouri
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:17 am Post subject: |
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| Gerrish is a good speaker, but very arrogant.
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TXTibbs Rancher

Joined: 09 Apr 2005 Posts: 1079 Location: South Central Texas, former South Dakotan
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:33 am Post subject: |
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[quote]No, it isn't something the NRCS came up with, they aren't smart enough to think of something new.
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well good thing i'm not sensitive and have hide thicker than lizzard skin! haha
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Ben H Member

Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 587 Location: Gorham, ME
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Do you work for NRCS? If you met the guys in my county you'd understand.
Yes, Gerrish can be a little Arrogant. His talk down in Jackso for Graziers Money conf. was interesting. It wasn't about managing animals. It was about going throug his mid life crisis and moving to Idaho leaving behind a good job to pursue his dreams. You can get the CD or Tape from Stockman Grass Farmer.
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Badlands Member

Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 382 Location: Eastern MT/Upstate NY
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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We've used the floating brace system for 12 1/2 years now and have never had one move. My brother in NW Iowa turned us on to them and he has had them in for more than 15 years now. In fact, you have to be careful not to overtension the brace wire or you will shove the post away from the tension and put your fence out of line if you use a floating brace for a crossfence off an existing fenceline. Put another way, the post leans away from the pull of the wires if you over tension it. I didn't think these would ever work, they sure do. They don't pop out because the brace is long enough.
Badlands
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Ben H Member

Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 587 Location: Gorham, ME
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| I have only put in about 40 posts since I got my new driver, previously I augered them, a few deflected and are a little off from vertical when viewed down the fenceline. With floating braces should I take the time to dig, pull or do whatevever to get these vertical or does it not matter with a floating brace?
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Badlands Member

Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 382 Location: Eastern MT/Upstate NY
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Ben,
When I wrote about posts being out of line, I was talking only about the end post of the brace.
Badlands
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Ben H Member

Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 587 Location: Gorham, ME
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Badlands,
I understand what you mean by forcing the post too far back when you are creating a "T", I'm talking about the end post if view it looking from down the fenceline. If it leans to the left or right is that going to continue to twist over the years, if so then I think I need to dig one side of them to straighten them up, not really something I would prefer to do.
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LCP Member

Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 7 Location: Headwaters of the Mighty Swan Creek
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| We've put a few of these floating corners in. Not 100% satisfied. They were used on 3 strand barbed wire fences. Had trouble with that bottom wire coming off the brace post. The problem I see is that your wire that keeps the brace post where it needs to be is right down there close to the ground, so over time as your brace post sits there and gets wet and covered with dead grass it begins to rot and the wire won't stay where its supposed to. An h-brace done right is pretty hard to beat in my experience. I will say that in very clayey soil the floating brace would probably be better than an H brace though. The way that stuff heaves, a floating corner is one of the few ways to deal with it.
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