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Mike
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 Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:00 am Post subject: Korea DOES Delay |
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South Korea Backs Out of Beef
05/14/2008
The South Korean government has announced they won’t be resuming U.S. beef export trade on May 15th as previously agreed to. National Cattlemen's Beef Association Chief Economist Gregg Doud says the news comes as a huge surprise.
“It’s really a shock because we were up and running and ready to go. There actually is a group of Korean auditors here. Those discussions went well and so this whole thing comes as quite a surprise."
Public protests in South Korea have escalated recently due to consumer concern about the safety of U.S. beef due to BSE. According to Doud - the delay in implementing the new beef agreement is purely political.
“The situation appears to be tied to the opposition party and dealing with the opposition party politics in Korea. Their lame duck session may be trying to run out the clock the opposition party here. This is not what they agreed to do so our government is having some pretty high level talks right now to figure out how to fix this."
Doud says they’re not sure just how long the delay will be. Some news reports have stated several weeks, but reports from the South Korean government suggest it will be more like days.
“Unofficially what they announced in Korea is a 7-10 day delay. The reason for that is that they had to have some more internal discussions. But I think part of it has to do with the lame duck Korean Assembly."
Doud says the South Korean action may also impact negotiations on the Free Trade Agreement, especially if it appears they aren’t willing to operate in good-faith.
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RobertMac
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 9:51 am Post subject: Re: Korea DOES Delay |
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| Mike wrote: |
South Korea Backs Out of Beef
05/14/2008
The South Korean government has announced they won’t be resuming U.S. beef export trade on May 15th as previously agreed to. National Cattlemen's Beef Association Chief Economist Gregg Doud says the news comes as a huge surprise.
“It’s really a shock because we were up and running and ready to go. There actually is a group of Korean auditors here. Those discussions went well and so this whole thing comes as quite a surprise."
Public protests in South Korea have escalated recently due to consumer concern about the safety of U.S. beef due to BSE. According to Doud - the delay in implementing the new beef agreement is purely political.
“The situation appears to be tied to the opposition party and dealing with the opposition party politics in Korea. Their lame duck session may be trying to run out the clock the opposition party here. This is not what they agreed to do so our government is having some pretty high level talks right now to figure out how to fix this."
Doud says they’re not sure just how long the delay will be. Some news reports have stated several weeks, but reports from the South Korean government suggest it will be more like days.
“Unofficially what they announced in Korea is a 7-10 day delay. The reason for that is that they had to have some more internal discussions. But I think part of it has to do with the lame duck Korean Assembly."
Doud says the South Korean action may also impact negotiations on the Free Trade Agreement, especially if it appears they aren’t willing to operate in good-faith. |
Note to Mr. Doud: South Korean politicians will ultimately respond to South Korean voters.
Here is a novel idea(that is for USDA and NCBA)...ask the South Korean consumers what they want!!!!
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mrj
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You boys are assuming there's no one promoting political aganda's in Korea! Are you really that naive???? Probably not, but it serves YOUR agenda to try to make us believe this is real consumer rebellion in Korea.
You probably shouldn't take any bets on a lengthy wait to get US beef into Korea.
mrj
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Sandhusker
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You boys are assuming there's no one promoting political aganda's in Korea! Are you really that naive???? Probably not, but it serves YOUR agenda to try to make us believe this is real consumer rebellion in Korea.
You probably shouldn't take any bets on a lengthy wait to get US beef into Korea.
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There it is folks, the reasoning of NCBA. Sound like a group that you would like representing you in setting beef policy?
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RobertMac
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| mrj, how long have we been waiting for the EU to drop their ban on our beef because of our use of growth hormones?
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| She doesn't get it, never will. It's sad because this one is sooooooo easy to see what is going on. What really amazes me is that she's not alone with this blind obedience to fools. I guess that's why this industry has so many challenges today - years of mismanagement.
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: Korea DOES Delay |
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| Mike wrote: |
South Korea Backs Out of Beef
05/14/2008 Note to Mr. Doud: South Korean politicians will ultimately respond to South Korean voters. Here is a novel idea(that is for USDA and NCBA)...ask the South Korean consumers what they want!!!! |
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr." <flounder9@VERIZON.NET>
To: <CJD-L@LISTS.AEGEE.ORG>
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [CJD-L] articles for press conference of Concerned Amerians Against Mad Cow Disease
Hello Honorable President Young-hui,
I am very glad i could be of help. do not hesitate to call or write if i can be of further assistance. many Koreans are now writing me privately about this as well. i signed the petition on http://www.stopmadcow.org and have sent it on to cjdvoice and other contacts i.e. (I am sure you are going to try to circulate our website to your friends.)
with kindest regards, terry
p.s. my comments http://la.indymedia.org/news/2008/05/217550_comment.php#217605
Could Korean Leader Learn from Controversies over U.S. Beef Imports? Posted by: Moon Ihlwan on May 15
One Korean official says the probability of a human being catching a mad cow disease by eating U.S. beef is like the one of a golf player scoring a hole-in-one and then being killed by lightning.<<<
http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/blog/eyeonasia/archives/2008/05/could_korean_le.html
The statistical incidence of CJD cases in the United States has been revised to reflect that there is one case per 9000 in adults age 55 and older. Eighty-five percent of the cases are sporadic, meaning there is no known cause at present.
http://www.cjdfoundation.org/fact.html
One Korean official says the probability of a human being catching a mad cow disease by eating U.S. beef is like the one of a golf player scoring a hole-in-one and then being killed by lightning.<<<
THIS is typical BSe $ you here industry groups comment 'your more likely to get hit by a car than die from CJD'. well, maybe so, but my mother and many more did not die from getting hit by a car, they died from CJD, my mothers being the hvCJD (confirmed), and my neighbors mother died from CJD (confirmed). the UKBSEnvCJD _only_ theory is incorrect. there are more strains of mad cow than the UK BSE in beef to nvCJD in humans in the UK. The deception by the USDA, FDA, and the Bush administration about mad cow disease, CJD, and all Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy over the past 8 years have been outrageous, to a point of being criminal. I am vested in nothing, but the truth.
"South Korea may demand revision of US beef import pact"
"The agreement, struck last month, has been widely criticized as making too"
"many concessions to the United States"
THE PEOPLE of Korea _should_ be mad about the importing of USA beef into their Country. can you believe these regulations? even IF a BSE case(s) are documented in the USA, the people of Korea still cannot suspend the importing of U.S. beef, NO matter how many more mad cows the USA finds, until a thorough epidemiological investigation is finished. please remember, it took over a year and literally an act of congress to confirm the atypical mad cow in Texas before they finally finish that epidemiological investigation, and even after all that, the Koreans still cannot ban USA beef, until the OIE recognizes an adverse change in the classification of the U.S. BSE status. Considering the USDA and the OIE collaborated to seal the deal of the BSE MRR policy (the legal trading of all strains of TSE globally, just for commodities and futures sake, human health was not even considered), I doubt the OIE would ever change the BSE status for the USA, no matter how many more mad cows are found. It's all about money folks.
WE are talking years now, before the Koreans could ever suspend USA beef due to a BSE case(s) ever being documented in the USA, due to these stupid regulations. This is nothing more than FORCE FEEDING KOREA USDA MAD COW BEEF, i.e. all for a dollar, to hell with human health on a disease with an incubation period of years if not a decade or more.
Please remember, the last two mad cows documented in the USA i.e. Alabama and Texas, both were of the 'atypical' BSE strain, and immediately after that, the USDA shut down the testing from 470,000 to 40,000 in the U.S. in 2007 out of about 35 million cattle slaughtered. also, science is showing that some of these atypical cases are more virulent to humans than the typical UK BSE strain ;
***Atypical forms of BSE have emerged which, although rare, appear to be more virulent than the classical BSE that causes vCJD.***
Progress Report from the National Prion Disease Pathology Surveillance Center
An Update from Stephen M. Sergay, MB, BCh & Pierluigi Gambetti, MD
April 3, 2008
http://www.aan.com/news/?event=read&article_id=4397&page=72.45.45
IF BSE is not in the USA (just not documented for many different reasons), and only atypical BSE is in the USA (plus CWD, plus, many strains of Scrapie, and Now the Nor-98 documented in 5 different states, plus TME, then why would human mad cow in the USA look like the UK nvCJD from UK BSE cows ? it was shown long ago in studies at Mission Texas that experimental transmission of USA Scrapie to USA Bovine, DID NOT LOOK LIKE UK BSE. so again, in short, why would human mad cow in the USA look like human mad cow in the UK i.e. the (nvCJD). however, I believe that BSE has been in the USA untested and undocumented for years. why on earth then does the USDA refuse to allow creekstone or anyone else test their product? simple, if you don't look/test, you don't find.
ONE only has to read how the USDA et al have legally blocked, blundered, botched, mismanaged, bungled, floundered, and flat out manipulated, the testing in the infamous June 2004 enhanced cover-up program for mad cow surveillance and testing. I mean, I am not really to hip on THE INDUSTRY, testing for mad cow disease, and what that program might consist of, but anything is better than nothing at all. ...
Tuesday, May 13, 2008
Concerned Americans against Mad Cow Disease STATEMENT OF SOLIDARITY with Koreans May 13, 2008
http://usdavskorea.blogspot.com/2008/05/concerned-americans-against-mad-cow.html
http://flounder068.vox.com/library/post/concerned-americans-against-mad-cow-disease-statement-of-solidarity-with-koreans-may-13-2008.html
http://www.koreantopnews.com/story.php?title=USDA_VS_KOREA_typical_or_atypical_BSe_Concerned_Americans_against_Mad_Cow_Disease_STATEMENT_OF_SOLIDARITY_with_Koreans_May_13_2008
BSE YOUNGEST AGE STATISTICS UNDER 30 MONTHS
http://bseyoungestage.blogspot.com/
http://flounder068.vox.com/library/post/bse-youngest-age-statistics-under-30-months.html
with kindest regards, I am sincerely,
Terry S. Singeltary Sr. P.O. Box 42 Bacliff, Texas USA 77518
CJD Voice
http://members.aol.com/larmstr853/cjdvoice/cjdvoice.htm
http://members.aol.com/larmstr853/cjdvoice/index.htm
CJD news
http://disc.yourwebapps.com/Indices/236650.html
The Many Faces of Creutzfeldt Jakob Disease
http://www.fortunecity.com/healthclub/cpr/798/cjd.htm
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TSS...END...2008
----- Original Message ----- From: Younghui Kim To: flounder9@verizon.net Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: articles for press conference of Concerned Amerians Against Mad Cow Disease
Dear Terry,
Thank you so much for your supporting statement for Concernrd Americans Against Mad Cow Disease. In the news conference, we read your supporting statement, which we condensed from your origianl statement.
Please click the following links to see the articles for our news conference.
All Korean articles wrote about your statement.
http://kr.news.yahoo.com/ /news/shellview.htm?linkid=4&articleid=20080515030000705i9&newssetid=1352
http://www.ohmynews.com/NWS_Web/view/at_pg.aspx?CNTN_CD=A0000900198&PAGE_CD=S0200>>
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2008/05/217550.php
Please visit WWW.STOPMADCOW.ORG and sign for our statement. (I am sure you are going to try to circulate our website to your friends.)
In korean section, lots of s..korean people are visiting this website and signigng too. so far 800 people have signed already.
Respectfully.
young-hui
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TSS
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