? Australian Shepherd problem

Mrs.Greg · Rancher Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 6181 Location: Alberta

Gregs brother prefers the Aussie over a border mostly cause he would never take the time to learn how to work a border. Greg and I find all his brothers dogs have been way too timid,and give up too easily.We like our dogs to work for us,not run back to home when needed.

Howdyjabo · Member Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 27 Location: NC

Not learning how to use a Border Collie is a problem--
they can be soooo smart that they can learn something the first time-- be it a mistake on your part or not. Smile

And they can be so sensitive that they worry about being wrong again.
Can really backfire if you are pushy and don't know what you are doing.

My hubby can ruin a fully broke dog if he works them too long-- his manner(overbearing and impatient) just eventually breaks their spirit.
He'd do better with a less thoughtful breed-or even better no dog at all.

kt in calif · Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject:

Hi, all. Just to clarify, I absolutely agree that folks need to be aware of all the factors when breeding any animal. That's exactly my point. The backyard suburban people who mate 2 merle aussies do the entire breed a disservice. But it does happen -even by accident, and it would be a shame not to acknowledge that those dogs can have a home and a good life as a pet rather than a working dog. In this case, the breed (show) standard helps to protect against producing double merles by limiting the amount and location of white markings. Please see the attached article regarding double merles - it's great. http://www.ashgi.org/articles/color_white_fright.htm

asghi.org is a wonderful resource.

dogs · Member Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 3 Location: Queensbury

hi

i red and saw that your dog that you had a dislocation.

i have a 1 year old australain shepard puppy and she is limping on her right front leg and her right front shoulder we think has a dislocation.

when your dog had a dislocation did your dog need surgery.

RobertMac · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: dog dislocation..

tta stockdogs · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:03 pm Post subject:

Merle to merle cross in Aussies does NOT make the pups mentally retarded nor does it affect their skeletal structure. There is a CHANCE that some pups may be what is called lethal white which make the pup blind and or deaf. But not every cross of merle to merle will produce a lethal white in the litter. Some of the greatest and best Aussies that ever worked stock was from a merle to merle cross. There is nothing wrong with crossing two very good merles as long as the breeder is willing to cull the lethal white pups at birth. Backyard breeders that dont know what they are doing and people not willing to cull pups-should not breed Merle to Merle-shouldnt breed at all.
Robert Mac, as far as your pup-as long it is not bothering her too much and she can get around good-I wouldnt worry a whole lot.She may grow up to be just fine. It would bet she got hurt playing sometime or other but a defect is possible. Sounds like the breeder is doing you right by returning your check and putting you down for another pup in the fall. Did the breeder say if this had ever happened before?
Aussiess will always be the main dogs here but I did get my first BC pup a few months ago and getting a Kelpie also in the near future. There are good stockdogs in all breeds.

Kato · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject:

Could be genetic. Confused

Osteochondritis Desicans (OCD)

A disease that can cause lameness in the joints of young dogs (usually
from 6 to 12 months of age) is Osteochondritis Desicans (OCD). This is
a degenerative disease of the joints, and is possibly associated with
over-nutrition and too-fast growth of puppies. Treatment includes rest
and/or surgery.

Check with your vet about this. It's listed as a possible genetic defect in a lot of breeds, from Aussies to Border Collies to Mastiffs and even Chihuahuas.

Hopefully it's an injury though..... That is such a sweet pup!

OldDog/NewTricks · Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:46 am Post subject:

OldDog/NewTricks · Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:00 am Post subject:

TumbleDowns Chance of A LifeTime
Winners Dog

Note White on Feet does not tie into Body White

Get of Sire Class (Lead Dog)

Note Third Dog is a White Factored Red Tri

Spirit

Spirits Color (White) is on the Off Side
He is NOT WHITE FACTORED

young gun · Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:05 pm Post subject:

I HEAR LOTS ABOUT KELPIE AND BORDER COLLIES BUT HAS ANYBODY HERE SEEN HOW THE HANGIN TREE DOGS WORK OR HAVE MUCH INFO FIRST HAND.

Sunraven · Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:30 pm Post subject:

I have Hangin' Tree Cowdogs. You can find a number of people over here who have them.

Robinae · Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:44 pm Post subject:

RobertMac, I had two Aussies from a merle to merle breeding. They were the BEST dogs and companions I ever owned. They were willing to work very hard! One just recently passed away and he was 14! I never had any medical issues to speak of out of either one of them.

The blue merle I had received an injury to his leg when he was young and had a limping problem for 2 years. When my vet told me to put this adult dog on the Iam's puppy small chunks, the limping went away within 2 weeks. Something in that food helped the joint. I kept him on it until he died last month.

The main thing to watch for in an Aussie is just as everyone has said, not too much white. A lot of white, does indicate less intelligence (not retardness) and deafness and blindness. But your Aussie doesn't have hardly any white at all, so I wouldn't be worried. Aussies can be the best dogs you will ever own.

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