Why do we educate?

[Judith]

I'm in a very interesting discussion on another forum about education. Some folk are for it some against. i'm of the though process that you can never learn enough and that continuing to think outside of your comfort zone is good for you. ALthough I still don't think we need math Can't we keep track of stuff with rock formations or something, It would be alot easier Love to hear you thoughts for or against

[Jinglebob]

I am all for education. But I think the education system in this country is in a mess.

Around here, the best education comes through the parochial school systems, seems like. But they have an advantage, they MAKE the parents stay involved!

As for continuing ed, if you quit learning, you might as well roll over and die.

Read, read, read and then read some more. Second best way to learn.

Why do people not realize that there are library's and the internet and that there is a lot of info about everything out there and all they need to do is check it out?

I am radical. I think the best way to learn is "hands on" with a mentor. After all, it's the cowboy way.

[Julie]

They can't teach you in college what you will really to know in life --but the way the world is structured, you will get a head start in life to learn what you really need to know if you have a degree first --

Sad but true.

Get the paper --then go back to the trenches. They can't take that away from you.

[Jinglebob]

[Julie]

My point exactly --- I had this conversation with two large animal vets the other day --- they had to take special classes to learn ANYTHING about vet work on a cow or horse -- and not all those electives were offered.
These were both ranch kids --so the degree made them legit --their upbringing made them good at what they do.

[Jerry H]

i am all for furthering your education
but i think like jb "hands on" is the best way
but as julie said without that paper alot of doors are shut for you
i know this is where i'm at
i don't have a deggree and i have been working in this industry for about 15 years and the best i can hope for is to be a ranch forman or cowboss some place and the sad thing is that i know more about ranching and the bussiness than some of the managers i have worked for

while we are bashing the veternarian's here's a funny story
when i was about 17 i was day working down at college staion
we were workin cows one fall and i was mouthin them nothing big just broke mouth or gummers we were taking out
well i was getting hot and tierd so this vet student said he would spell me
now this guy was in his 3rd year of vet school
he opens the first cows mouth and say's "shes a gummer she doesn't have any top teeth"
i about fell out and then i was asked to go back to mothin them
until later
jerry

[Jinglebob]

[Mrs.Greg]

[nonothing]

I think the best reason for education is it teaches one how to learn.Most professions require a practicum or internship before a title can be claimed.There are test to pass and skills to learn which are noted and applied with-in the educational system.Math is an important part of life, more than people even realize.How would you know if you got the right change back from the store clerk without the concept off addition and subtraction?filling up a dirt bike or chainsaw you need to understand mixture ratios.Math is the truest form of logic.Math is a global language.if you can not understand simple math,life would be impossible to get through on one's own.

[Mrs.Greg]

NN,the math thing was a joke...I'm talking for Judith too but I think her and I don't love math,it was a tongue in cheek thingy

[Red Robin]

Education isn't worth 15cents to me. If you know something , I'll pay you but just because you've been to the class doesn't mean you know anything. If I was getting a set of heifers bred for example, I don't want the person with a diploma, I want the man that knows what a cervix feels like and can manipulate the gun. Someone running a dozer, I don't want the vo-tech paper, I want a man that can keep the blade doing the right thing. I don't want the person who's been to cooking school, I want the woman that can sling hash out of what's in the refrigerator. Some things are teachable but not many. It usually takes a hand on the plow.

[cowwrangler]

i am all for it,in fact i think we need more of it,we need to get back to more education in the schools,i know in the school here they are getting to much sports going on,i am for sports but there has to be a limit,the kids cant do homework cause they are not home,gone to a sporting event, and with the budget cuts the school would rather cut educational programs rather then sports,i like sports just as much as anyone but i think we need to have prioreties,also they are finding that learning later in life helps warding off alzheimers,the mind needs to keep learning