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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My ex boyfriend reminded me tonight that we were going to take out Bin Laden some years ago but failed to do so because he was out in a hunting party with some UAE sheikhs...

At UT, I taught young Gulf Arabs who flocked to UT for petroleum engineering I imagine. They were more progressive than the Saudis and of course who knows what the Yemenis are like?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm...still makes me a little nervous. Do you suppose the media would have picked up on this earlier if something so incredibly important as Rolling Eyes Cheney shooting a lawyer hadn't dominated the headlines?

Fact Sheet: The CFIUS Process And The DP World Transaction

“If there was any chance that this transaction would jeopardize the security of the United States, it would not go forward. The company has been cooperative with the United States government. The company will not manage port security. The security of our ports will continue to be managed by the Coast Guard and Customs. The company is from a country that has been cooperative in the war on terror, been an ally in the war on terror. The company operates ports in different countries around the world, ports from which cargo has been sent to the United States on a regular basis."

- President George W. Bush, February 21, 2006

President Bush Strongly Supports The Decision To Move Forward With The DP World Transaction

The Administration, As Required By Law, Has Reviewed The Transaction To Make Certain That It Does Not In Any Way Jeopardize National Security. Under the process conducted by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), officials carefully reviewed the national security issues raised by the transaction and its effect on our national security. Twelve Federal agencies and the government's counterterrorism experts closely and carefully reviewed the transaction to make certain it posed no threat to national security.

DP World Has Provided Strong Security Assurances To The United States. DP World has signed a letter of assurances making commitments to meet and maintain security standards for the port terminals that they will own and operate in the United States. There are a number of safeguards that are in place in the agreement, and the American people should feel confident that the transaction will in no way harm the security of the Nation's ports.

DP World's Bid For The London-Based Peninsular And Oriental (P&O) Steam Navigation Company Was Announced Last Fall. DP World, a UAE-based commercial entity, is purchasing the U.S. subsidiary of the London-based P&O Steam Navigation Company. The announcement of DP World's bid for P&O was made in November 2005, and the news was widely reported in the press and international financial trade publications. The formal CFIUS process was set into motion in December, and the Federal government conducted a thorough review to ensure that port security would in no way be compromised by the deal.

The Administration Has Taken A Principled Position Based On The Security Of Our Nation And Careful Review Of The Transaction. The President has made clear that he stands firmly behind the decision to allow the DP World transaction to move forward. Preventing this transaction by a reputable company to go forward after careful review would send a terrible signal to friends and allies that investments in the United States from certain parts of the world are not welcome.

The Port Security Of the United States Is The Administration's First And Foremost Concern

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Is Always In Charge Of The Nation's Port Security, Not The Private Company That Operates Facilities Within The Ports. Nothing will change with this transaction. DHS, along with the U.S. Coast Guard, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, and other Federal agencies, sets the standards for port security and ensures that all port facility owners and operators comply with these standards.

The Transaction Is Not About Port Security Or Even Port Ownership, But Only About Operations In Port. DP World will not manage port security, nor will it own any ports. DP World would take on the functions now performed by the British firm P&O - basically the off- and on-loading of cargo. Employees will still have to be U.S. citizens or legal permanent residents. No private company currently manages any U.S. port. Rather, private companies such as P&O and DP World simply manage and operate individual terminals within ports.

Background On The CFIUS Process

The CFIUS Process Was Rigorously Followed, And CFIUS Agencies Carefully Reviewed The Transaction. Ensuring the protection of our national security is the top priority of all members of CFIUS. In reviewing a foreign transaction, CFIUS brings together 12 Federal agencies with diverse expertise to consider transactions from a variety of perspectives and identify and analyze all national security issues.

The Department of the Treasury, which chairs CFIUS, receives notices of transactions, serves as the contact point for the private sector, establishes a calendar for review of each transaction, and coordinates the interagency process.

During the initial 30-day review, each CFIUS member agency conducts its own internal analysis of the national security implications of the transaction under review. CFIUS also consults with the intelligence community. In this case, the Departments of Transportation and Energy were also brought in to widen the scope and add to the expertise of the CFIUS agencies involved in the review process.

All CFIUS decisions are made by consensus of the entire committee. The review process allows any agency that sees a potential credible threat to the national security to raise those concerns.

In the course of the review of this transaction, DHS reached an agreement with DP World to mitigate security concerns.

DP World Has Played By The Rules, Has Cooperated With The United States, And Is From A Country That Is A Close Ally In the War on Terror. The United Arab Emirates (UAE) has been a solid partner in the War on Terror. The UAE has been extremely cooperative on counter-terrorism and counter-proliferation and has provided considerable support to U.S. forces in the Gulf and to the governments and people of Iraq and Afghanistan.

The UAE Is A Partner In Shutting Down Terror Finance Networks. The UAE has worked with us to stop terrorist financing and money laundering, including by freezing accounts, enacting aggressive anti-money-laundering and counter-terrorist financing laws and regulations, and exchanging information on people and entities suspected of being involved in those actions.

The UAE Is An Established Partner In Protecting America's Ports. Dubai was the first Middle Eastern entity to join the Container Security Initiative (CSI) - a multinational program to protect global trade from terrorism. Dubai was also the first Middle Eastern entity to join the Department of Energy's Megaports Initiative, a program aimed at stopping illicit shipments of nuclear and other radioactive material.

Port Security Begins Abroad. U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) created the CSI to enable CBP to inspect 100% of high-risk containers at foreign seaports before they are loaded onboard vessels destined for the United States. Dubai was the first Middle Eastern entity to join CSI. Cooperation with Dubai has been outstanding and a model for other operations.

DP World currently manages 19 container terminals and has operations in 14 countries. The United States government has a strong working relationship with DP World.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/02/20060222-11.html


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try this one out.
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http://www.nysun.com/article/27936

I find the deal between the UAE and the clinton gore administration in May of '98 pretty interresting. Who on here was as outraged then as they are now? Shocked

Just another case of playing politics I guess. Dare I say hypocrite??? It's funny how that word always seems to come to mind when dealing with these people.

Since more information has come out about this subject does anyone care to change their position on it? Either way? I know when it first came out many saw it as an opportunity to finally get Bush, but .....? Confused


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You couldn't " get Bush" with a Judegement Day hammer!!!

The family has too many connections spread far and wide...and there's always been some close by to pull his nutz outta the fire and that's not about to change anytime soon.

Gotta hand it to him..... nothing will stick to him


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone caught how Bush has back-peddled a bit on his whole, "No negotiation. I'll veto any attempt to pause to examine this idea!" position from Tuesday to one of, "well maybe we could pause to discuss the idea..." Rolling Eyes

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/13945797.htm
"Apparently bowing to congressional pressure, a top White House aide said Thursday that President Bush would accept a delay in the deal for a United Arab Emirates-owned company to manage terminals at six major U.S. ports in order to give skeptical lawmakers more time to study it."


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You couldn't " get Bush" with a Judegement Day hammer!!!


I thought the issue was port security, and foreign ownership,...not just plain old Bush bashing....sure glad you cleared this up.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Has anyone caught how Bush has back-peddled a bit on his whole, "No negotiation. I'll veto any attempt to pause to examine this idea!" position from Tuesday to one of, "well maybe we could pause to discuss the idea..."


maybe this is why compromise is so tough,,,,when Bush concedes to allow more time for the decision and calm to set in he is "back peddling".

I am all for calling it what it is "a forced compromise", but why negotiate at all if every time you do it gets taken as a weakness? or a flaw such as back peddling?

if your going to be wrong no matter what why compromise at all?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve wrote:
maybe this is why compromise is so tough,,,,when Bush concedes to allow more time for the decision and calm to set in he is "back peddling".


When your "liberals" do it, it's called "flip-flopping". Tomato, tomah-to...

I find it interesting that you think it's a weakness when I thought it was being forced to see reason. The Congressional reps who were up in arms about this made it clear they were pretty sure they had the votes to over-ride a veto...


"Oh... well, maybe we could pause to discuss..."


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much ado about nothing. Damn shame. Criticism to go around from me. Seems as if some Republicans have given in to a kneejerk reaction for political reasons. I guess that's why they did it. They sure didn't try to listen to the facts first. And the President probably could have/should have done a better job in how this was handled. It seems as if he gets bad advice from time to time on how to handle things from a political standpoint. I doubt if we'll ever see him put political concerns first, though. Thank God! Very Happy

Strange the hypocrisy of the Dems, though. They don't want racial profiling of young arab males getting on airplanes. But entire countries is okay? Huh? They whine and complain about too much government when the NSA needs to listen to Al Quaeda calling, but they want the government to have a say in legitimate business deals? Huh?

It's too bad that Tommy Franks isn't getting more press with his thoughts on this issue. My emphasis; link below. Very Happy

Former CENTCOM commanding general Tommy Franks said Wednesday that the Bush administration was right to approve a deal for a United Arab Emirates-based company to run six major U.S. ports.

"We have more U.S. Navy ships using the port in Dubai, Jebel Ali, than any other port outside the United States," Franks told Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes."

The former Iraq war commander explained U.S. reliance on the Dubai port facility by saying, "We know the difference between an enemy and a friend."

"The Emirates is a friend," Franks aid. "That is the best run port that I've ever seen."


http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/2/22/221135.shtml?s=ic


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

X wrote:
Much ado about nothing. Damn shame. Criticism to go around from me. Seems as if some Republicans have given in to a kneejerk reaction for political reasons. I guess that's why they did it. They sure didn't try to listen to the facts first. And the President probably could have/should have done a better job in how this was handled. It seems as if he gets bad advice from time to time on how to handle things from a political standpoint. I doubt if we'll ever see him put political concerns first, though. Thank God! Very Happy

Strange the hypocrisy of the Dems, though. They don't want racial profiling of young arab males getting on airplanes. But entire countries is okay? Huh? They whine and complain about too much government when the NSA needs to listen to Al Quaeda calling, but they want the government to have a say in legitimate business deals? Huh?

It's too bad that Tommy Franks isn't getting more press with his thoughts on this issue. My emphasis; link below. Very Happy

Former CENTCOM commanding general Tommy Franks said Wednesday that the Bush administration was right to approve a deal for a United Arab Emirates-based company to run six major U.S. ports.

"We have more U.S. Navy ships using the port in Dubai, Jebel Ali, than any other port outside the United States," Franks told Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes."

The former Iraq war commander explained U.S. reliance on the Dubai port facility by saying, "We know the difference between an enemy and a friend."

"The Emirates is a friend," Franks aid. "That is the best run port that I've ever seen."


http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/2/22/221135.shtml?s=ic
Okay, I'll take 40 lashes with a wet noodle for having some initial misgivngs. Interesting Fair and Balanced debate on Fox this morning helped make my mind up. And Hillary is POed, gotta love it.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevec wrote:
X wrote:
Much ado about nothing. Damn shame. Criticism to go around from me. Seems as if some Republicans have given in to a kneejerk reaction for political reasons.


No, it was just fear. Fear is real, and it drives the politics on both sides.

"the terrorists are coming, the terrorists are coming" and then people get on their horse and gallop off. Panic comes over people like a wave direct from Hell.
BS, like always. The actual facts regarding this issue were very slow getting out, and I'm blaming the Administration and the media, so what's left...speculation.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Your "initial misgivings" are called fear. Why do you blame others for your lack of judgment?
Well exscuuuuse me for not jumping on the bandwagon until more info was available and the issue had been discussed and debated. I believe it's called healthy skepticism.


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