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katrina
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyway after I was creeped out I couldn't remember sh*t....


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Northern Rancher
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess Old OT didn't finish all his broncs-must of got his noggin bounced a few times lol.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldtimer wrote:
Bill wrote:
Yes!!!!!!!What say ye Brethern of R-CLAFF. How can it be that prices have gone up with an open Canadian border? I am sure that a "trade organization" such as yourself will have a sound, factual explanation. Laughing Laughing Laughing


According to the feeders the loops and hurdles to jump thru that the USDA is requiring are too great to make it worthwhile- that and fuel prices along with the question of what will happen with these cattle if R-CALF wins the appeal and Canadian cattle are again banned from being slaughtered in the US.

Right now they are still kind of taboo...
Laughing Laughing Laughing Taboo to who? R-Calf members? Would they be the same ones who got caught with their hands in the cookie jar before and they are too ashamed to be caught again but I bet that won't last long. Better think up another excuse for these high prices Oldtimer.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill wrote:
Oldtimer wrote:
Bill wrote:
Yes!!!!!!!What say ye Brethern of R-CLAFF. How can it be that prices have gone up with an open Canadian border? I am sure that a "trade organization" such as yourself will have a sound, factual explanation. Laughing Laughing Laughing


According to the feeders the loops and hurdles to jump thru that the USDA is requiring are too great to make it worthwhile- that and fuel prices along with the question of what will happen with these cattle if R-CALF wins the appeal and Canadian cattle are again banned from being slaughtered in the US.

Right now they are still kind of taboo...
Laughing Laughing Laughing Taboo to who? R-Calf members? Would they be the same ones who got caught with their hands in the cookie jar before and they are too ashamed to be caught again but I bet that won't last long. Better think up another excuse for these high prices Oldtimer.


Ask Agman, there are not that many moving across the border from what I have read.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just telling you what some of the buyers and feeders have told me- the small lots (10,000 and under) can't afford to go thru the added cost, telephone book size pile of paperwork, continuing inspections and isolation from US calves requirements.....

I was just talking with a couple buyers again this morning- and they are positive that their are still many more chapters of the border saga left to be played out and nothing is written in stone yet- adds another risk factor to north of the border cattle......


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talk about strange prices:
A friend some bull calves to the stockyard. Two of them were identical they had the same sire and mothers were full sisters. I could not tell the two calves apart. They even had the same white spot in the side of the nose.
One weighed 517 pounds and the other went 522 pounds. One sold for $143 per hwt and the other went for $73 per hwt.
Why such a big price spread?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok everybody, breathe deep and relax a bit, lol..........

Cattle prices, start with the fats......... Good movement of Beef at lower prices has created some earlier interest. Look at the Daily USDA report, even with bigger cattle, we aren't getting enough Choice to cover movement. Premiums for Choice and Primes is really good as a result and that is driving this thing. Sell a load of calves that grade select on the grid and the check will be pretty sorry....


On calves, lower placements through the summer so pens are more emprty while guys are looking at bins full of very cheap feed......it's driving these guys, but me, hey I'm waiting to see before buying more, I did all of my calf buying in July. In August, i was wondering how silly that was, but right now I am happy I did. Still have pretty decent amount of grass to put weight on them, hope all is going as well for the rest of you,

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heck, I know, RCALF has done such a good job of getting the message out that Montana auction sale cattle are of such quality& safety, that the consumer didn't think they could afford to buy beef labelled as such, so they have purchased beef from other sources.

GOOOOO RCALF!!!!!!!!!

10% of people are hearing you, (tommy's numbers)[/quote]


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Bill
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alabama wrote:
Talk about strange prices:
A friend some bull calves to the stockyard. Two of them were identical they had the same sire and mothers were full sisters. I could not tell the two calves apart. They even had the same white spot in the side of the nose.
One weighed 517 pounds and the other went 522 pounds. One sold for $143 per hwt and the other went for $73 per hwt.
Why such a big price spread?
Now that row of good 'ol boys on buyers row wouldn't be price fixing would they? Shocked Same thing happens up here 'bama.


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greg
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happens here too ,matter of fact won't sell at my small close to home action anymore cause of it.And the small towns ALWAYS screaming we need to support them.... you can only go so far with that one


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katrina
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bama, Next time that happens tell the auctioneer you'll just take him home. We do it all the time and pretty soon it don't happen.... If you're going to give something away.. You be the judge of who you are going to give it too. We had a real nice cow calf pair get hurt on the way to town and we ended up no saleing the pair and we gave it to some friends who needed the pair.....


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