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reader (the Second)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
the_jersey_lilly_2000 wrote:
I'd slick him up with either dish washin soap or some kinda oil...usually a quart or two in the ranch truck. Git him good'n slick n turn him where ears are in the corners since that'd be the widest spot..pin his ears back n push....or cattle prod to the nose.

I thought on this....n am thinkin this is a trick question..hehe
(answers prolly real simple)

Also I'm not seein a weld on the post behind the panel???? possibly pull it outta the ground if not welded and wallahhh.????


I've seen this myself even with my limited ranching exposure. I'm with Jersey Lilly - I'd use oil and see which angle the head is the narrowest.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Great solution

Several years ago I was checking my cattle and noticed my neighbors bull looking thru the "hedge apple" fence. For those of you that are not from the midwest in the 1930s the county extention agents planted Osage Orange ( hedge apple) trees every 12" in the fence rows to form a natural living fence - - - works well but makes fence rows about 100' wide.

I thought nothing of it but the next day he was in the same spot so upon further looking it was apperant he was caught.

After getting the owner / he liked to check his animals monthly or whenever needed. We tried several things to free the bull, finally we tried the screw jack from under the hood.

When we got him free I spent a couple of hours keeping him from to much water. I was afraid of water founder. If you looked at the ground on his side it was depressed about 3" in a fan shape - - - I feel he was there about 3 or 4 days.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
One thing I'm glad you didn't have to use was the HOT SHOT! My gosh, nothing like a little torture to help things along.

We had a horse that was always getting stuck somewhere it seems. We had to cut a tree down once, because he was caught between two cottonwood trees. Just kind of whinnied and squealed til we went to see what the problem was. Got the chain saw to get him out that time. We had Jackleg fences in w. Montana and he got caught in them somehow and we had to cut the jackleg to get him out. He was really accident prone.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I remmeber a couple of times as a kid that we had to lift yearlings and calves out of the well boxes on a couple of windmills.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I had to disassemble a kitchen chair in order to extricate my 5 yr old's head from between the slats on the seat back. Laughing Exclamation
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
George wrote:
Great solution

Several years ago I was checking my cattle and noticed my neighbors bull looking thru the "hedge apple" fence. For those of you that are not from the midwest in the 1930s the county extention agents planted Osage Orange ( hedge apple) trees every 12" in the fence rows to form a natural living fence - - -.
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They must have done that in the east also. There's a tight row of those old trees a block from our house. It appears they hold up well over the years. Too bad there's nothing practical to do with all those "oranges" they drop. Nothing seems to eat them but kids do like to roll them down the street.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Silver wrote:
I had to disassemble a kitchen chair in order to extricate my 5 yr old's head from between the slats on the seat back. Laughing Exclamation


That reminds me of a little first grade girl back when I was in the fifth grade. She got one of her fingers stuck in the top ring on a clipboard. The custodian was called upon to help, and soon came into the classroom armed with a hacksaw. The little girl panicked big-time and was crying her eyes out until the teacher explained that the hacksaw was to cut the steel ring and not her finger. The kid brightened right up. Confused Say what? Embarassed Smile Smile Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I had a yearling bull get his head caught in the metal frame of a mineral feeder last year. It was one of the tub type feeders with a rubber flap on top to keep out water.

Anyway, the tub was over his head and he couldn't see where he was going and was p.o'ed at the world. Couldn't drive him to the barn and couldn't get close to him.

Wound up darting him with some xyla-ject and cutting the angle iron off with a hacksaw. There was no other way.

Glad you came up on the calf Soap. Lesser managers might not have caught him until it was too late.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Soapweed wrote:
Silver wrote:
I had to disassemble a kitchen chair in order to extricate my 5 yr old's head from between the slats on the seat back. Laughing Exclamation


That reminds me of a little first grade girl back when I was in the fifth grade. She got one of her fingers stuck in the top ring on a clipboard. The custodian was called upon to help, and soon came in the classroom armed with a hacksaw. The little girl panicked big-time and was crying her eyes out until the teacher explained that the hacksaw was to cut the steel ring and not her finger. The kid brightened right up. Confused Say what? Embarassed Smile Smile Shocked


That reminds me of the erroneous, self-centered perspective we humans
can put on events. Right after 9-11 when folks were afraid of terrorist attacks on large important buildings one inmate told me how afraid she was that the prison where she resided might be the first place attacked since it is a govt. building close to an interstate and a bridge. Shocked It took a long time to find some kind wording to explain that it is the last place the terrorists might choose.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
One time we had an old cow walking back and forth in the calving lot, looking for all the world like she had already calved. We played detective, and searched everywhere. Finally the calf was located down in the pit underneath the pipes of a cattle guard, where vehicles can get in and out of the pasture without opening a gate. It was a big sixteen-foot wide affair, and I hated the thought of getting a loader tractor to lift it up.

We used a ruler to measure, and found a spot where the pipes were about a quarter of an inch further apart than any other place. After getting a rope around both of the calf's hind feet, we started pulling him up backwards. It was a tight fit, but by turning and twisting he finally came up through the pipes. For the calf, it probably felt like he was "born again" but from my perpective, his halo wasn't too shiny. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
That was a good story, Soapweed!

Reminds me of the time my husband rode his little Honda 110 motorcycle that he used to irrigate with, over to the neighbors. As he went across the cattleguard he noticed a movement. The neighbors weren't home, so he didn't stay, but on the way out, he investigated the 'movement' underneath the cattle guard.

Imagine his suprise when he looked under there and found a MULE!!

No kidding, one of the pack mules must have reached way under the cattleguard for some green grass and somehow got stuck. As I said, the neighbors weren't home, but we all used the same vet, a great big guy. Jack (my husband) called the vet and he came out. Together they managed to get the mule out. It took them quite awhile and were successful only because of the brute strength of the vet~

Anyway, the mule must not have been there very long, because he wasn't too bad off. A little wobbly as he staggered away, but the next day he was fine.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:20 am    Post subject: Wobbly? Reply with quote
FH - please cut us a little slack on this question of mine, but after the Texas case, a lot of us are more than a bit confused.

TELL US THE TRUTH NOW, WAS THE MULE DEAD OR JUST "WOBBLY"? Laugh Laugh Laugh Wink
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