IM Wormer for Horses?

[JBacon]

The Vet is coming tomorrow for Spring vaccinations and wants to give my horse an IM Wormer (for $28 additional). I already do a 3 way rotation paste wormer every 8 weeks. Do you think I need this? I am trying to research this and find only swine and bovine im wormers. Please advise Thanks, Jan

[leanin' H]

We worm ours twice a year. But our cold weather helps control a lot of the worms in our manure. I've never IM wormed a horse. Let us know what ya find out. Welcome!

[Big Muddy rancher]

Ivomec used to have an injectable wormer for horses. To many died from clostridial infections. Not from the wormer but from the physical shot. It got pulled from the market at least up here.

[HAY MAKER]

I worm mine twice a year,depends alot on where you keep your horses,if they have clean pasture or kept confined in a small pen or stalled.
I like the quest plus,bout all we use down here.
good luck

[Faster horses]

I wouldn't do it.
If you really want to clean up worms (whether in your area or up here) do the Panacur Power Pack--I think it's a 6 day regime. It WILL get rid of all worms but bots. And I think it's a lot less than $28.

And if you really want to save money, read how much to give your horse on the Panacur box and go get some Safe-guard tube wormer. It's the very same ingredient, only costs more when it's packaged for horses.

Safe-guard gets way more worms in cattle and horses than any
ivomectrin product--except bots.

Hope this helps!!

[HAY MAKER]

QUEST® PLUS (moxidectin/praziquantel) Equine Oral Gel when administered at the recommended dose level of 0.4 mg moxidectin/kg and 2.5 mg praziquantel/kg (2.2 lb) body weight is effective in the treatment and control of the following stages of gastrointestinal parasites in horses and ponies: Large Strongyles, Small Strongyles, Encysted cyathostomes, Ascarids, Pinworms, Hairworms, Large-mouth stomach worms, Horse stomach bots, Tapeworms,

good luck

[Faster horses]

Please note--I said Safeguard/Panacur doesn't get bots.


I'm suprised that Quest gets tapeworms, cuz any of the
avermectin products sure don't kill tapeworms in cattle. Only
Safeguard used at 2x recommended dosage and Valbazan kill
tapeworms. Valbazan can only be used for a window of time. (read the label, cuz where you buy it, they won't mention that fact.)

So, in the fall after the first freeze, we use liquid Ivomec. It's easy to administer. Put it in a syringe and shoot it in the side of their mouth. For
the rest of the time we use Safeguard, because it gets more worms and is very SAFE!!

You can feed Safeguard in pellets in feed for horses that aren't easy
to worm. You can do it over a few days. It's always better to worm
anything over a few days, than a blast all at once.

I've attended several of Dr. Bliss (Mid America Labs) seminars on
worming. He is one of the worlds formost parasiteologists.
Wow. That's a big word.

Seriously, tho. I didn't know this stuff til I learned it from him.

And the arena competitors do the Power Pack at least once a year
on their horses.

But they all work. Just some better than others and some are less money.

[gcreekrch]

The old-timers up here used to put a bottle cap full of sulpher in their using horse's grain every day until they could run a hand down the horse's back and it would come away yellow. No worms, no lice.

[Chickshunt2]

[HAY MAKER]

[Kato]

A word of warning on the Quest thing.

Don't use it for a heavily infested horse, or for a first time on a colt. It's actually too effective for some animals. It will kill "encysted" worms that are still in the wall of the gut, and that other wormers don't touch. This can cause them to release toxins as they die that can make the horse very ill. A friend of mine lost a horse like this. Shortly after worming, the horse developed a horrific case of diarhea and they could not save it, even though they did everything they could.

On horses that are regularly wormed, and don't carry too heavy a parasite load, it's a great product. I'd choose carefully which horses to use it on thought.

[Faster horses]

I talked to my powers-that-be about Quest wormer. Here's what I got back. Thought I would share it:

"If you use safeguard you won't have to worry about killing too many bugs. I
think that using Quest or Ivermectins you cause your horse to have some kind
of shock. How do you know that a colt or horse is heavily infested? Take
fecals and go from there, I use Safe Guard three or four times a season and
use something for botts in the fall. I take fecals regularly and I dont'
have worms and neither do my horses."