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nonothing
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| You gonna answer the question Sandhusker or you need more time to research?....waiting for your answer.......
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jodywy
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| "a strong government hand is needed to assure that wealth is distributed more equitably."Barrack Obama WSJ 6/17/08 |
Have to find it later but he said something of the sort on his European campaign that the world needs a more equal distribution of resources.
Then his plan to tax oil companies and redistribute the money to citizens….
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Sandhusker
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| You gonna answer the question Sandhusker or you need more time to research?....waiting for your answer....... |
Wealth redistribution is Marxist. You want to argue about that?
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nonothing
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| You gonna answer the question Sandhusker or you need more time to research?....waiting for your answer....... |
Wealth redistribution is Marxist. You want to argue about that? |
So your telling me the rich will be stripped of thier money? Or doctors will be paid the same as wallmart cashiers? or will skilled tradesmen be paid the same as casaul labourers?Are you saying that well off seniors will be forced to give up their retirement savings and recieve the same goverment check the other seniors are given so all seniors are equal?,,Marx's therory was based on Class and the power that each class had over the one below it...He believed the small number of Rich ruled the land and brought with it thier rules and controled how all classes lived.He also felt it held back the other class of peoples from finding thier true potential......It is a theroy from the 1800's,It is to hard to compare any modern day political governing to marx ..There are laws now that protect people then there were not back then....
Now answer my Question sandhusker....
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Sandhusker
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Where did I even hint at all that? I said that wealth redistribution is a Marxist ideal. Do you want to argue against that? You think that is not right? You can call it Marxist Theology if that makes you feel any better. There, you've got a label, is that what you wanted?
You think there are laws that protect people from wealth redistribution? Where is the law that protects us from a progressive income tax? What law would prevent B. Hussein Obama from enacting the wealth confiscation and redistribution that he is calling a windfall profits tax? Where is the law that stops the government from taxing the money I made from working and giving it to a high school dropout drug dealer in New Orleans? Where are those laws, nono?
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Texan
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| Now answer my Question sandhusker.... |
You need to finish up your old business with Sandhusker before you start new business:
http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=295821#295821
A lot of us were waiting for an answer to his question. Maybe I missed it?
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aplusmnt
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nonothing
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| Now answer my Question sandhusker.... |
You need to finish up your old business with Sandhusker before you start new business:
http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=295821#295821
A lot of us were waiting for an answer to his question. Maybe I missed it? |
Mr Soapweed was right, I mistook the dislike here for hillary as meaning women in general..I applogize for my mistake to those who are expecting one and I stand coerrected on the wording I choose in that posting........
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nonothing
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Where did I even hint at all that? I said that wealth redistribution is a Marxist ideal. Do you want to argue against that? You think that is not right? You can call it Marxist Theology if that makes you feel any better. There, you've got a label, is that what you wanted?
You think there are laws that protect people from wealth redistribution? Where is the law that protects us from a progressive income tax? What law would prevent B. Hussein Obama from enacting the wealth confiscation and redistribution that he is calling a windfall profits tax? Where is the law that stops the government from taxing the money I made from working and giving it to a high school dropout drug dealer in New Orleans? Where are those laws, nono? |
So would not charity be considered wealth redistribution?Are you saying Marx's introduce the Idea of Charity? You have yet to explain to me what school of marxism Obama is using?As for your tax laws I have no clue.and I am not researching them.
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Soapweed
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Where did I even hint at all that? I said that wealth redistribution is a Marxist ideal. Do you want to argue against that? You think that is not right? You can call it Marxist Theology if that makes you feel any better. There, you've got a label, is that what you wanted?
You think there are laws that protect people from wealth redistribution? Where is the law that protects us from a progressive income tax? What law would prevent B. Hussein Obama from enacting the wealth confiscation and redistribution that he is calling a windfall profits tax? Where is the law that stops the government from taxing the money I made from working and giving it to a high school dropout drug dealer in New Orleans? Where are those laws, nono? |
So would not charity be considered wealth redistribution?Are you saying Marx's introduce the Idea of Charity? You have yet to explain to me what school of marxism Obama is using?As for your tax laws I have no clue.and I am not researching them. |
Charity is volunteer wealth redistribution. Communism (Marxism) is mandatory wealth redistribution. There lies the difference.
When hard working people are forced to give away most of their resources, through high taxes and other government-imposed penalties, these hard-working people eventually give up and quit producing. When everyone quits producing, nothing is produced, and the whole population is broke and hungry.
With a viable free-enterprise system, hard work and talent are rewarded. When people are doing well financially, they feel generous. Charity comes about from the generousity of prosperous cheerful people. A cheerful paid volunteer always works harder than an unpaid slave.
When America was first settled by white people, a communistic form of living was their first system of living. These people nearly starved to death until a free-enterprise system was instilled instead. After that the country has prospered.
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kolanuraven
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| nonothing wrote: |
| Sandhusker wrote: |
Where did I even hint at all that? I said that wealth redistribution is a Marxist ideal. Do you want to argue against that? You think that is not right? You can call it Marxist Theology if that makes you feel any better. There, you've got a label, is that what you wanted?
You think there are laws that protect people from wealth redistribution? Where is the law that protects us from a progressive income tax? What law would prevent B. Hussein Obama from enacting the wealth confiscation and redistribution that he is calling a windfall profits tax? Where is the law that stops the government from taxing the money I made from working and giving it to a high school dropout drug dealer in New Orleans? Where are those laws, nono? |
So would not charity be considered wealth redistribution?Are you saying Marx's introduce the Idea of Charity? You have yet to explain to me what school of marxism Obama is using?As for your tax laws I have no clue.and I am not researching them. |
Charity is volunteer wealth redistribution. Communism (Marxism) is mandatory wealth redistribution. There lies the difference.
When hard working people are forced to give away most of their resources, through high taxes and other government-imposed penalties, these hard-working people eventually give up and quit producing. When everyone quits producing, nothing is produced, and the whole population is broke and hungry.
With a viable free-enterprise system, hard work and talent are rewarded. When people are doing well financially, they feel generous. Charity comes about from the generousity of prosperous cheerful people. A cheerful paid volunteer always works harder than an unpaid slave.
When America was first settled by white people, a communistic form of living was their first system of living. These people nearly starved to death until a free-enterprise system was instilled instead. After that the country has prospered. |
You silly people actually BELIEVE that Obama, Democrats are Communists and are gonna come and take away your tractors, mules and money and give ti some guy in Hoboken????? 
And here's the BIG problem.....America WAS NOT FIRST settled by WHITE PEOPLE!!!!!!! Most of you think you are the only ones that exist or have ever existed.
I get a tee-hee outta you Western folk who scoff at Eastern people.....like your people fell outta the sky and landed on Mt, NE or WY????
It's like that joke about when you die and go to heaven you must whisper when near the Baptist( Insert your FAV religion or political party here_)section. When you ask St Peter why you must whisper, he says cause they think they're the only ones up here!!!
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Soapweed
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| nonothing wrote: |
| Sandhusker wrote: |
Where did I even hint at all that? I said that wealth redistribution is a Marxist ideal. Do you want to argue against that? You think that is not right? You can call it Marxist Theology if that makes you feel any better. There, you've got a label, is that what you wanted?
You think there are laws that protect people from wealth redistribution? Where is the law that protects us from a progressive income tax? What law would prevent B. Hussein Obama from enacting the wealth confiscation and redistribution that he is calling a windfall profits tax? Where is the law that stops the government from taxing the money I made from working and giving it to a high school dropout drug dealer in New Orleans? Where are those laws, nono? |
So would not charity be considered wealth redistribution?Are you saying Marx's introduce the Idea of Charity? You have yet to explain to me what school of marxism Obama is using?As for your tax laws I have no clue.and I am not researching them. |
Charity is volunteer wealth redistribution. Communism (Marxism) is mandatory wealth redistribution. There lies the difference.
When hard working people are forced to give away most of their resources, through high taxes and other government-imposed penalties, these hard-working people eventually give up and quit producing. When everyone quits producing, nothing is produced, and the whole population is broke and hungry.
With a viable free-enterprise system, hard work and talent are rewarded. When people are doing well financially, they feel generous. Charity comes about from the generousity of prosperous cheerful people. A cheerful paid volunteer always works harder than an unpaid slave.
When America was first settled by white people, a communistic form of living was their first system of living. These people nearly starved to death until a free-enterprise system was instilled instead. After that the country has prospered. |
You silly people actually BELIEVE that Obama, Democrats are Communists and are gonna come and take away your tractors, mules and money and give ti some guy in Hoboken?????
And here's the BIG problem.....America WAS NOT FIRST settled by WHITE PEOPLE!!!!!!! Most of you think you are the only ones that exist or have ever existed.
I get a tee-hee outta you Western folk who scoff at Eastern people.....like your people fell outta the sky and landed on Mt, NE or WY????
It's like that joke about when you die and go to heaven you must whisper when near the Baptist( Insert your FAV religion or political party here_)section. When you ask St Peter why you must whisper, he says cause they think they're the only ones up here!!! |
I didn't say there weren't already people here, I said "when America was first settled by white people." There is a difference, and I should have worded it differently. Nonetheless, I am not that ignorant on the history of our country, and the story is true about communism failing and free-enterprise working for those early white settlers.
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