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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:05 pm    Post subject: More Chickenization of Beef? Reply with quote

Pasture to Plate ownership-- they'll loan you the money to buy the cattle (the type that they tell you to buy and from who ?) and you have the chickenization of the beef industry....Cookie Cutter beef.... Sad


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JBS announces 'bank of cattle breeding'



Staff Reports

The Tribune

July 22, 2008



JBS S.A., the parent company of Greeley-based JBS Swift & Co., has announced it has created a "bank of cattle breeding."



With $18.7 million in starting capital, JBS Banco aims to help farmers develop production of bulls and cows, according to Meatingplace.com.



"We created this bank with products and services directed toward cattle breeding. Clients that will have accounts in this bank will need to prove to be a cattle producer," JBS President Joesley Batista told Meatingplace.com.



Batista said JBS also plans to establish similar banks in the United States, Argentina, Australia and Italy.



JBS has a cash flow of some $3.7 billion per year for cattle breeders in Brazil.



Regarding JBS's proposed acquisitions of Smithfield Beef Group, National Beef Packing Co., and Five Rivers Ranch Cattle Feeding, Batista expressed confidence that the U.S. Department of Justice would approve the deals.



"We have supported many American livestock associations, and our process is very consistent," he said. "Nobody invests $1 billion in an acquisition without doing his homework," Batista told Meatingplace.com.



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would this differ much from the Harris Ranch, CNB, or Agri Beef branded products?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do I hear Tennessee Ernie Ford singing "I owe my soul to the company store....."


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It did not have to be this way, 2010/2012 is getting closer.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:31 am    Post subject: Question Reply with quote

What kind of cattle are they telling you to buy?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We have supported many American livestock associations,...


Interesting!?!?!?

COIN wrote:
How would this differ much from the Harris Ranch, CNB, or Agri Beef branded products?

Could it be because they would have over 1/3 of the beef's market share????
Hope you been busy studying your dietary fats! Wink Smile

Ben, I don't think that wake-up call is ever going to get answered.

cedardell wrote:
What kind of cattle are they telling you to buy?

Does that matter??????


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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JBS announces 'bank of cattle breeding'



Staff Reports

The Tribune

July 22, 2008



JBS S.A., the parent company of Greeley-based JBS Swift & Co., has announced it has created a "bank of cattle breeding."



With $18.7 million in starting capital, JBS Banco aims to help farmers develop production of bulls and cows, according to Meatingplace.com.



"We created this bank with products and services directed toward cattle breeding. Clients that will have accounts in this bank will need to prove to be a cattle producer," JBS President Joesley Batista told Meatingplace.com.



Batista said JBS also plans to establish similar banks in the United States, Argentina, Australia and Italy.



JBS has a cash flow of some $3.7 billion per year for cattle breeders in Brazil.



Regarding JBS's proposed acquisitions of Smithfield Beef Group, National Beef Packing Co., and Five Rivers Ranch Cattle Feeding, Batista expressed confidence that the U.S. Department of Justice would approve the deals.



"We have supported many American livestock associations, and our process is very consistent," he said. "Nobody invests $1 billion in an acquisition without doing his homework," Batista told Meatingplace.com.



greeleytribune.com



interpretation:
"We have bought the silence of the NCBA and we have paid off the necessary congressmen to get this done" Batista subconsciously told meatingplace.com


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This'll make breeding decisions easy...Everyone will be raising sons of
Toro Grande......


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The socalled "cattleman organization" doesn't seem to be concerned...

To me that means the cattleman is going to get screwed and we should be very worried... Wink

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NCBA on JBS - no new regulatory reform
Tuesday, 11 March 2008
These guys are unbelievable:

JBS S.A.'s recent plans to acquire Smithfield Beef Group and National Beef Packing Co. deserves more scrutiny than last year's Swift and Co. purchase, but does not merit calls for regulatory reform, National Cattlemen's Beef Association President Andy Groseta said in an article prepared for use as an editorial.

Hmmm. The $100K-plus investment by Tyson, et al in NCBA is paying off big time. Too bad the producers fund these guys with the checkoff tax.
http://www.competitivemarkets.com/index.php?Itemid=20&id=41&option=com_content&task=view



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldtimer wrote:
The socalled "cattleman organization" doesn't seem to be concerned...

To me that means the cattleman is going to get screwed and we should be very worried... Wink

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NCBA on JBS - no new regulatory reform
Tuesday, 11 March 2008
These guys are unbelievable:

JBS S.A.'s recent plans to acquire Smithfield Beef Group and National Beef Packing Co. deserves more scrutiny than last year's Swift and Co. purchase, but does not merit calls for regulatory reform, National Cattlemen's Beef Association President Andy Groseta said in an article prepared for use as an editorial.

Hmmm. The $100K-plus investment by Tyson, et al in NCBA is paying off big time. Too bad the producers fund these guys with the checkoff tax.
http://www.competitivemarkets.com/index.php?Itemid=20&id=41&option=com_content&task=view



Disgustingly shameful..... Mad


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This pretty well explains all of what the NCBA cares for...$$$$$

At least ladies of the evening are open about their occupation and price.... Rolling Eyes Wink

Be interesting to see how much "grease" JBS will have to lay across NCBA's palms in their sellout of the American cattleman.... Say what? Sad Sad

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NCBA sales price to packers? $100k per year
Monday, 03 March 2008
NCBA supposedly represents U.S. cattle producers. But producers wonder why the group fights fair markets for producers in favor of meat packers. More pointedly, why do they lie? Indeed, can you remember when NCBA has ever taken a position contrary to the American Meat Institute?

Alan Guebert gives the answer:

For example, the NCBA's "Allied Industry Partners" list (as noted at http://www.beefusa.org/affialliedindustrypartners.aspx) is a virtual who's who--other than cattlemen, of course -- of the red meat industry: Cargill, Tyson, Elanco, etc., etc.

And, as the Web site notes, one only lands on the list via the company checkbook. "Gold level sponsors," the NCBA helpfully explains, must make a "minimum $100,000 investment" in -- wait for it -- the NCBA.

Investment is a very pleasant word to describe what the loot actually buys. Influence, credibility and lobbying cover is a less pleasant, more accurate description what the relatively puny corporate cash really buys.

And Guebert artfully shows how the prostitution dynamic works:

The sell-out of these commodity groups brings to mind a story Winston Churchill loved to tell about how he once asked some comely partygoer if she would allow him "favors" in return for a large sum of money. She quickly agreed. Churchill then asked if he would receive the same favors for a fraction of the earlier sum.

Sir, asked the now-indignant lady, what do you take me for?

"Madam," Churchill coolly replied, "we've already established what you are. The question we're presently attempting to answer is price."

The price is apparently $100K, but I suspect there can be discounts.

http://www.competitivemarkets.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=20


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too bad you guys can't tell the difference between the chicken pluckers.............(Tyson) and the beef pushers...........(JBS)


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