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Ben H
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Location: Gorham, ME
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 Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:10 am Post subject: kids, motorcycles, scarring horses, what would you do? |
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| We have a group of kids (by kids I mean probably 20's) on crotch rockets that go by are farm, or did. They get to the top of the hill and see the horses in the pasture by the road and start beeping horns and reving engines. That causes the horses flight response to kick in. A cop often sits in our driveway because people speed past our farm (30mph speed zone), I mentioned the bikes and said one is going to get knocked off. He said he has no sympothy and that they keep out running the cops.
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Denny
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| Just remember it's a free country.I'm sure a few times of the bikes going by the horses won't give them a 2nd look.We live right by the train tracks here and the train blows the whistle right by our barn it can be full of horses and they don't even look up.Sounds more to me like the horses are more tolerable than you are.Before I would take out a gun for something so petty I would just move the horse's.I can tolerate kid's as I was one once.
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kolanuraven
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Talk to the Mom's and Dad's of these kids...or better yet the kids themselves .
If they come by @ at reg time....have your truck parked in such a way that they have to slow to get by you....then step out and have a word or two.
Popping off shots will get your arse locked up if a stray bullet ends up in the wrong place.
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Hooks
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kolanuraven
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Acting like that just gives the anti-gun people justification in their arguments.....and in this case...they'd be right!
Your wife sounds like a smart lady...listen to her!
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efb
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject: Kids, motorcycles, |
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| I would think if you could bring yourself to ignore it, your horses would soon ignore it too. The kids are most likely trying to agitate you. If they find out they are successful they will keep it up. If you ignore them them will soon get bored and find someone else to impress.
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leanin' H
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Location: Western Utah Desert
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| Ben, what im about to say may tick ya off but i could care less. You fired a gun because kids were spookin' your horses? Do you have kids? Grandkids? What would you do if they told you some idiot fired a gun near them while out riding motorcycles? If my kids told me that you'd wish the cops picked you up before i got there! Grow some testicles and try talking to the kids! Or thier parents! Or moving your horses! And you have just posted for the whole world to see (INCLUDING LAW ENFORCEMENT) exactly what you did in your own words!! I thought about contacting somebody in your area's sherriffs department myself. You make all of us look like jacka$$'$. As gun owners, as land owners, as horsemen and as ranchers. YOUR ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES! What happens if a low flyin' plane scares your cattle..... ya gonna buy an anti-aircraft battery and blast away? What happens if they store clerk at the supermarket gets lippy... ya gonna call in an air strike? Good luck with your anger management issues and hopefully your next post will show ya have the capacity to realize what a ridiculous, stupid, hot-headed, dangerous, life-threatening totally uncalled-for mistake you made. Unbeleiveable!!! And if your do see the giant error in judgement you made, tell us how your apology goes! If not, maybe a little coolin' off in a jail cell will teach ya something!!!
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Jerry H
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i agree with leanin h 100%
as i watch my 2 small kids playing here in the living room
if some done sothing as thoughtless and danerous as that close to them the police would most likly put me in jail when i got done with that person
sincerly
jerry
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Jerry H
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i agree with leanin h 100%
as i watch my 2 small kids playing here in the living room
if some done sothing as thoughtless and danerous as that close to them the police would most likly put me in jail when i got done with that person
sincerly
jerry
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Oldtimer
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| leanin' H wrote: |
| Ben, what im about to say may tick ya off but i could care less. You fired a gun because kids were spookin' your horses? Do you have kids? Grandkids? What would you do if they told you some idiot fired a gun near them while out riding motorcycles? If my kids told me that you'd wish the cops picked you up before i got there! Grow some testicles and try talking to the kids! Or thier parents! Or moving your horses! And you have just posted for the whole world to see (INCLUDING LAW ENFORCEMENT) exactly what you did in your own words!! I thought about contacting somebody in your area's sherriffs department myself. You make all of us look like jacka$$'$. As gun owners, as land owners, as horsemen and as ranchers. YOUR ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES! What happens if a low flyin' plane scares your cattle..... ya gonna buy an anti-aircraft battery and blast away? What happens if they store clerk at the supermarket gets lippy... ya gonna call in an air strike? Good luck with your anger management issues and hopefully your next post will show ya have the capacity to realize what a ridiculous, stupid, hot-headed, dangerous, life-threatening totally uncalled-for mistake you made. Unbeleiveable!!! And if your do see the giant error in judgement you made, tell us how your apology goes! If not, maybe a little coolin' off in a jail cell will teach ya something!!! |
Stupid or hasty actions by one or a few get you Stupid Laws & Supreme Court Rulings that bind everyone !!!!!......
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DOC HARRIS
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Denny wrote: |
| Just remember it's a free country.I'm sure a few times of the bikes going by the horses won't give them a 2nd look.We live right by the train tracks here and the train blows the whistle right by our barn it can be full of horses and they don't even look up.Sounds more to me like the horses are more tolerable than you are.Before I would take out a gun for something so petty I would just move the horse's.I can tolerate kid's as I was one once. |
Ben H-
Shooting of a gun to hope to 'educate' some thoughtless, untrained stupid kids is not the answer. It is AN answer, but not THE answer.
You are treating the symptom - instead of the cause. These last three generations of Americans have been following Benjamin Spock's philosphies of raising children by "...not hurting their little psyche's..." by letting them do whatever their little ego's and hearts WANT to do! Oh my --NO -- don't discipline them . That wouldn't be FAIR now . would it? This is the primary reason we have problems in schools, problems in jails, problems in marriages, problems in businesses, problems in traffic, problems in every walk of life these days. We should just "Put up" with the inconvenience, and the noise, and the disturbance of our livestock, and the undisciplined, rude, impolite, thoughtless, angry, brats that are being whelped everywhere these days resulting in our jails being overrun with them, and our schools not being able to teach because of the uncontrollable, arrogant, spoiled, overbearing, snot-nosed delinquents who are running the teachers and the curriculums because their parents are AFRAID of their own kids - because they have never disciplined them , or taught them to practice SELF- discipline.
Get in touch with their parents (not that it would do a d--m bit of good!) and have a down-to-earth talk with them (with a few LEGAL terms and Attorney names suggested and thrown in for good measure) and "read 'em from the book!" That is much better than taking a chance of killing somebody, and find yourself counting the years before you get out of prison! Your action was as stupid as the the kids being overbearing nuisances!
So you think that our country (World) is in trouble? You"BE NICED!" right it is!! You and people who think like you do are the reasons for it! Self-discipline starts at home - and it should certainly start when the dear, sweet little darlings are about 3 months old! It is too ---- late after that!
You might wonder if I have enough experience to suggest some of these thoughts. You bet your life I have! Three sons, seven Grandchildren, Three GREAT grandchildren and another one on the way! Yes, I have had plenty of time and experiences to form a pretty solid philosophy about child-rearing. And shooting guns at them is not part of it - - even though I have considered it several times! But self-discipline and common sense ruled the day - and my kids were over-joyed! Me too!
I hope you can use the same kind of common sense and self-discipline before it is too late. Your situation is why they have law enforcement rules and regulations. Follow them. You are paying taxes for that service!
DOC HARRIS
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WyomingRancher
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Denny wrote: |
| Just remember it's a free country.I'm sure a few times of the bikes going by the horses won't give them a 2nd look.We live right by the train tracks here and the train blows the whistle right by our barn it can be full of horses and they don't even look up.Sounds more to me like the horses are more tolerable than you are.Before I would take out a gun for something so petty I would just move the horse's.I can tolerate kid's as I was one once. |
Ben H-
Shooting of a gun to hope to 'educate' some thoughtless, untrained stupid kids is not the answer. It is AN answer, but not THE answer.
You are treating the symptom - instead of the cause. These last three generations of Americans have been following Benjamin Spock's philosphies of raising children by "...not hurting their little psyche's..." by letting them do whatever their little ego's and hearts WANT to do! Oh my --NO -- don't discipline them . That wouldn't be FAIR now . would it? This is the primary reason we have problems in schools, problems in jails, problems in marriages, problems in businesses, problems in traffic, problems in every walk of life these days. We should just "Put up" with the inconvenience, and the noise, and the disturbance of our livestock, and the undisciplined, rude, impolite, thoughtless, angry, brats that are being whelped everywhere these days resulting in our jails being overrun with them, and our schools not being able to teach because of the uncontrollable, arrogant, spoiled, overbearing, snot-nosed delinquents who are running the teachers and the curriculums because their parents are AFRAID of their own kids - because they have never disciplined them , or taught them to practice SELF- discipline.
Get in touch with their parents (not that it would do a d--m bit of good!) and have a down-to-earth talk with them (with a few LEGAL terms and Attorney names suggested and thrown in for good measure) and "read 'em from the book!" That is much better than taking a chance of killing somebody, and find yourself counting the years before you get out of prison! Your action was as stupid as the the kids being overbearing nuisances!
So you think that our country (World) is in trouble? You"BE NICED!" right it is!! You and people who think like you do are the reasons for it! Self-discipline starts at home - and it should certainly start when the dear, sweet little darlings are about 3 months old! It is too ---- late after that!
You might wonder if I have enough experience to suggest some of these thoughts. You bet your life I have! Three sons, seven Grandchildren, Three GREAT grandchildren and another one on the way! Yes, I have had plenty of time and experiences to form a pretty solid philosophy about child-rearing. And shooting guns at them is not part of it - - even though I have considered it several times! But self-discipline and common sense ruled the day - and my kids were over-joyed! Me too!
I hope you can use the same kind of common sense and self-discipline before it is too late. Your situation is why they have law enforcement rules and regulations. Follow them. You are paying taxes for that service!
DOC HARRIS |
 
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